Briggsy Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Well, its been mentioned a few times about voting results being rigged when Jules pre-records a show, and this proves it. Jules is in America this weekend, so his show has been recorded in advance, and bearing in mind that his show doesn't start until 7pm, its now only 4pm and the tracklisting for tonights show is already online - and the "Budge The Judge" result is also online! Saturday 9th December 19:00 Cut-Up Cut Pate No. 1 – ‘Shining Star’ [ben Macklin mix] (Kontor Germany) Akon feat Eminem – ‘Smack That’ (Universal) Freeform 5 – ‘No More Conversation’ [Mylo Mix] (Apollo) Ne-Yo feat. Peedi - ‘Stay’ (Def Jam) Sharam – ‘PATT’ [Tocadisco mix] (Data) Lil’ Jon + Elephant Man – ‘Get Low’ (TVT) Roger Sanchez – ‘Lost’ [D Ramirez mix] (Stealth) Bootyluv – ‘Boogie 2nite’ (Data) Those Guys – ‘I Walk Alone’ [Haji + Emmanuel Dub] (Big Love) Beats International – ‘Dub Be Good To Me’ (Go! Discs) Fatboy Slim – ‘Champion Sound’ (Skint) Mason – ‘Exceeder’ (Boss) Soulsearcher – ‘Just Can’t Get Enough’ (EQ Grey) Big Bass – ‘What You Do’ [Hoxton Whores Mix] (Apollo) Macca – ‘I’d Rather Be Alone’ (Blow Media) Camille Jones – ‘The Creeps’ [Fedde Le Grand Mix] (Vendetta Spain) Funky Tried & Tested Annie – ‘Heartbeat’ [static Motion Remix] (White Label) Axer vs Powers – ‘Space Invaders’ (White Label) Bump – ‘I’m Rushing’ [Dave Spoon Mix] (Art & Craft) Bud & Stone vs Muse – ‘Super Dirty Black’ (White Label) Illuminati – ‘Saxy Thing’ [Karl G Mix] (Bless) Jacques Bauer – ‘Abandon Ship’ (Blow Media) Jack Rokka – ‘Take Off’ (White Label) Buy Now – ‘For Sale’ [Felix Da Housecat Mix] (Mode Records) Andrew Galea – ‘Electronic’ (White Label) One For The Weekend – Judge Jules’ Choice Dada Life - The Great Fashionista Swindle (Pickadoll) 20:00 Bangin’ Tried & Tested Mind One – ‘Hurt Of Intention’ [Ferry Corsten Mix] (Flashover) Warrior – ‘If You Want Me’ [Paul Webster Mix] (Incentive) JJ – ‘Master Breaker’ (White Label) Cara Dillon & 2 Devine – ‘Black Is The Colour’ (Anjunabeats) Groove Lift – ‘Instant Moments’ (Tsunami Special Blend Holland) Budge The Judge Winning Track Marco V – ‘Red Blue Purple’ (Maelstrom) The Saturday Night Mix Signalrunners – ‘Aria Epica’ [bart Claessen Mix] (Anjunabeats) DJ Spoke – ‘Watch Them Fall Down’ (PSR) Carlos – ‘Silmarillia’ [Leon Boiler Mix] (Liquid) Ronski Speed – ‘The Space We Are’ [John O’Callaghan Mix] (Euphonic Germany) Unknown – ‘Can’t Take My Eyes Off You’ (White Label) The Last Dance Chris Barratt – ‘Red’ (White Label) So, the questions are, can we trust that ANY of the vote results are genuine any week, and how legal is this? I'm not about to sue Radio 1 over the price of a text, but they're asking people to text in to give a result of something which has already been decided - false advertising. Its no big deal, but in the days we are of everyone suing everyone for anything, Radio 1 could have major issues if someone wanted to be a real arse about this.... Putting the tracklisting up so early is also a bad move, because, by the looks of that tracklisting, I probably won't tune in tonight now because there's not much there that Jules hasn't played in previous weeks - including "The Space We Are (JOC Remix)", which is far too old now! because of that, they've just lost a listener tonight - but the thing is, how many other people have already seen that tracklisting and also decided not to tune in? Quite damaging for listener statistics I should think - which also makes a mockery of their policy of making Jules show blend with Trevor Nelson's and Westwoods to help keep listeners tuned in. Yet again, another daft cock up by Radio 1. They must employ more clowns to work there than Billy Smart's Circus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Must admit it doesn't look good. When Jules pre-recorded his show last month l just assumed he had done two recordings for this feature and that the text vote was genuine. It can easily be done legally as all thats needed is someone in the studio to count up the text votes that have come in and then play the winning recording and tune (hope l'm making sense). What Jules shouldn't do is read out fictitious names. I would like you to know that Jules read out my name when l voted for "Loveshy" so they are geniune names when he is in the studio. On the subject of the tracklisting, it will be interesting to see if they have got it right this week as it has been wrong on previous occassions. I say this because on Sat 28th October Jules was in the States and the "Back To The Old School" tune was listed as Fragma "Toca Me" which was wrong as System F "Out of The Blue" was the winning tune. The following week both tracks were listed, Moby "Go" and Humate "Love Stimulation" and the latter was the winner. Last month Radio 1 posted T/L for Pete Tongs Fri Show a whole day early (on Thurs) which really confused me. Someone at R1 needs their arse kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dormouse Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I'll pass a link to this thread on to Jules, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 I'll pass a link to this thread on to Jules, I think. I think he ought to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dormouse Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 He now does! What a slip-up by the beeb tho, posting the tracklisting. If anyone had any doubts before, they've been confirmed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Last week the tracklisting for tongs show, well the firts hour at least was on the site before itd been played on a side note! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Mayes Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 the bbc need there ass kicked why not just get a dj in to cover and do a live show im not happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Well Jules does a few recorded shows per year, which is fair enough, because like the rest of us, he's entitled to have a day off to do other things - like DJ'ing in overseas countries. Bringing in a "sub" DJ isn't really necessary if Jules can do it himself by pre-recording it. Jules would be quite hard to replace in all honesty. He's quite unothodox as a Radio presenter in that he's quite witty, light-hearted and "one of the crowd". If it was Tim Westwood, then that would be different because you could just draft in Ali G to cover and nobody would know any different. I also don't mind the show being pre-recorded - apart from the dodgy votes, etc, nobody would know any different. The only thing that bothers me is being mislead. If I'm texting in to enter a competition, i'd like to think I have a chance of winning. I wouldn't like to think the winner was decided a few days before it was even announced on the radio. I'd also like to think the features on the show are genuine, and not concluded by made-up statistics. Its not the first time Radio 1 have done stunts like this. Remember back in the day when Dave Pearce's weekday show had the 30 minute mix and we were "invited" to phone or text in if we wanted a tune in the mix? It was a complete waste of time because a) Dave Pearce didn't do the mix himself, and It was pre-recorded. The only way you were going to get your tune and a shout-out was if you just happened to flukily ask for a tune that had already been put into the mix when it was recorded. I do think the pre-recorded emails that Jules reads out are genuine though. Even though Jules is only on Saturdays, he probably recieves emails to his Radio 1 email address every day, so if he pre-records his show on a Tuesday, he probably reads out the emails he recieves on the Monday and Tuesday. I'm afraid i've lost trust in Radio 1 though, and I won't be taking part in any features and competitions in the future because the winner has probably been decided before its even been announced on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakey Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 How do they do it though? It could possibly be that all the votes you're registering could be used the next week though? Then you would stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 It could possibly be that all the votes you're registering could be used the next week though? That would still make the feature useless though because I could text "Budge" this week if I like the listeners choice, but next week I could like Jules's choice more, so if my vote of "budge" was used next week, my vote would go to the track I want to lose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dormouse Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Yeah but the tunes are different each week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakey Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 ah right I didn't realise how the feature worked. I'm rarely in on Sats to listen to the show at the moment. Yeah I'm not too sure about that then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Kane Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Seems a bit of a joke to be honest that they would run the feature when they know which tune will win, on pre-record weeks they should just drop the feature, people would rather have that than waste a text message when the winning tune has been decided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Just drop the features completely I say. Keep it simple - one hour of House/Electro, the other Trance and all things banging. I don't want to hear the Cut Up Girls, loads of randoms phoning in, a tune selected by a famous DJ, and a tune that we heard supported earlier on the year. Bring back the good old days when the outdoor events were two hour MIX broadcasts, no pointless features and no randoms telling us how they got there and who with, etc. I'm not really bothered if Kate in Clacton went all the way to Creamfields on a skateboard, or if Fred in Colchester went to Turnmills in his Ford Capri. Make it a specialist show again, and not a dance anthems-esque phone in show. Keep that for Dave Pearce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 The last tune in this weeks "Sat night Mix" is wrong as I'm pretty sure he didn't play Unknown "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" (he played it last week). I think he played Cosmic Gate "Earth Mover" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dormouse Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 No, it was Cosmic Gate - "Earth Mover" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Seems a bit of a joke to be honest that they would run the feature when they know which tune will win, on pre-record weeks they should just drop the feature, people would rather have that than waste a text message when the winning tune has been decided It could still be done on pre-record weeks. I mentioned this in an earlier post that it just needs someone in the R1 studio to count up the text votes and then play the winning track along with one of the pre-recorded "alternatives endings" minus the fictitious names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakey Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 Seems a bit of a joke to be honest that they would run the feature when they know which tune will win, on pre-record weeks they should just drop the feature, people would rather have that than waste a text message when the winning tune has been decided It could still be done on pre-record weeks. I mentioned this in an earlier post that it just needs someone in the R1 studio to count up the text votes and then play the winning track along with one of the pre-recorded "alternatives endings" minus the fictitious names. Ahh that's very true, they could have had both options recorded. All it would take is someone to look at the votes and press the correct button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakey Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 What Jules shouldn't do is read out fictitious names. I would like you to know that Jules read out my name when l voted for "Loveshy" so they are geniune names when he is in the studio. Do they read out fictious names? I was under the impression that they used texts etc from the previous week which hadn't been read out or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 No, it was Cosmic Gate - "Earth Mover" At first l thought it was "Until Monday" then realised it was "Earth Mover" and altered it before l saw your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 All it would take is someone to look at the votes and press the correct button. That requires a bit of common sense though. Unfortunately, the "behind the scenes" staff at Radio 1 have been lacking in that department for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted December 9, 2006 Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 What Jules shouldn't do is read out fictitious names. I would like you to know that Jules read out my name when l voted for "Loveshy" so they are geniune names when he is in the studio. Do they read out fictious names? I was under the impression that they used texts etc from the previous week which hadn't been read out or something? To be honest l don't know. I'm only referring to the text votes for "Budge the Judge". I agree with Briggsy as l wouldn't be very happy if my name was read out for a tune l hadn't voted for so l would complain and l'm sure others would as well. That's why l was under the impression they used "fictitious names" when "Budge the Judge" is pre-recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirddrive Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 Jules losing the title to Cosmic Gate - Earth mover and calling it something elese is one of the best radio moments this year, haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 I reckon he played the wrong track on his CD, and recorded the speech at a different time to the mix - so he might not have twigged that he played Earth Mover instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSheehan Posted December 10, 2006 Report Share Posted December 10, 2006 u guys worry waaaay too much bout how jules' show is run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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