Neuro Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 No idea with that one - I presume it was just another bootleg that disappeared once its time was up! Back on topic, some really interesting points written in this thread, especially by Briggsy. It's quite a hard to strike a balance because you can't please everybody, and remember when Jules had 2 shows on Radio 1, it gave more leeway for one to be very specialist and one slightly more commercial. Although yes, people can and do "listen again" online at any time now, they choose to for a reason and I think they'd want to hear a specialist sound - that's not us being biased because we have been hardcore fans; if a young lad wanted to see if he liked drum n bass for example, he would expect to hear drum n bass if he tuned into Fabio (& formerly Grooverider)'s show, not a watered-down version of events. Another thing I might as well point out here is that when Jules had the liberty of 2 shows on Radio 1, he only read out email shouts on a Friday, and left the phone-in messages for the Saturday, which was great - it all added to the numerous other points of how accessible and thoroughly professional and 'clean' the old Friday shows felt. It was as if Jules was personally in your living room for the evening, taking his time to showcase most of his records for you with a mix-orientated outlook and no interference from anyone else, and I really liked that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrant Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) lol, poor old Jules having to read all of this thread, what a read!! Probably the best discussion we've had on here for a while. I agree with all of Briggy's points except your views about bootlegs, where you say there should be less of them and they take up the 5 minute space of a good tune. In my view sir, 1 or 2 unique bootlegs are sometimes brilliantly used in a set and I like to hear them! I think the point we could agree on is that average bootlegs shouldnt be played for the sake of it, they should be ultra-special and exciting, like when you bite into a sweet and you get a new flavour oozing out the centre you weren't expecting. 6. Sorry, but I also agree about the recovery track. It sounds out of place in a dance show. It'd be like a classic FM show finishing with a rock song as something different to round the show off. I don't think that it works. :lol: Edited February 22, 2008 by Quadrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I think the point we could agree on is that average bootlegs shouldnt be played for the sake of it, they should be ultra-special and exciting, like when you bite into a sweet and you get a new flavour oozing out the centre you weren't expecting. Love that description of yours Quadders, it says it all. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 I agree with all of Briggy's points except your views about bootlegs, where you say there should be less of them and they take up the 5 minute space of a good tune. In my view sir, 1 or 2 unique bootlegs are sometimes brilliantly used in a set and I like to hear them! I think the point we could agree on is that average bootlegs shouldnt be played for the sake of it, they should be ultra-special and exciting, like when you bite into a sweet and you get a new flavour oozing out the centre you weren't expecting. :lol: Yeah, thats pretty much what I meant mate. A good, unique, bootleg deserves some airplay. In my opinion, a bootleg should be two different tunes, blended together to create something new and exciting. Unfortunately, I feel a few bootlegs that have been supported are quite poor and could quite easily be knocked up by someone at home with very little effort. Two that stand out are the Digital Deviant bootleg with the vocal from Bullet In The Gun, and the Alex Morph & Rank 1 - Life Less Ordinary tune with the vocal from Delerium - Silence over the top. Not only did the vocal not suit the tune, but it was also out of sync too. It sounded very poorly produced and amateur. The Red, Blue, Purple bootleg with the Start 69 vocal over the top was another poor bootleg which didn't sound too appealing. The ones that should be supported are bootlegs like K.Sheehan's 'Sosei Fiction'. He took two tunes, and created something new. There was never a harder remix of Sosei released, so those DJ's that liked the tune, but play harder sets didn't really have the option of playing it - but Sosei Fiction then gave that option because it had a much harder bassline than the original, but kept the recognisable breakdown. That's how a bootleg should be done. AJS has also done some good bootlegs that Jules has supported. I'm all for a good bootleg - but at the moment, it seems that everyone wants to make a name for themselves as a DJ/Producer, so they're knocking something basic up at home, sending it to Jules via his website, and then its being supported - voila! They've suddenly got their name out there, for the sake of a poorly produced bootleg which features a popular Trance tune, with a well-known vocal over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuro Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Thanks everybody for contributing their thoughts - and hopefully some good feedback for you Jules Any more additional thoughts please feel free to air them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Mental Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Just don't everyone do it as I am easily confused as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Thanks for yet more feedback. For avoidance of doubt, I answer every single email I receive via my website, which is many hundreds each week. If it seems like I don't appear that much on chat forums, I certainly put my hours in where communication is concerned. I'm sure you can imagine how long it takes to answer all these emails, something very few dj's do.With regard to features on the show, I'm mindful that over 30,000 people listen every week via R1's 'on-demand' facility, at any hour of day or night. As such I feel it's important to give a flavour of what's going on in the scene, and not just assume that all my listener base exists on a Friday night. Whilst some folk might only want to hear music, from the feedback I receive there are many people who are interested in hearing what the voices and personalities behind the dj names are like. I welcome your further comment... But you have no way of telling who the listen again audience are? it could easily be people simply listening to the show again or because they where unable to listen at 1am. Personally I used to use the listen again function to listen to various parts your saturday shows 10-20 times a week. now at most I use it once or twice a week and this is because I don't think the current show format warrants me staying up from 1-3 am on a friday night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Mental Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Exactly what I was going to say, and just kinda emphasises the question of "what the f*** is the point in asking?!!" if you are going to take that view anyways. I know I was a bit of a bastard earlier in the thread, but come on, I'm actually starting to go back to that crappy mindframe. Its not f***ing rocket science how to put a show on Radio 1 together, and if it is you don't deserve listeners in the first place. Sorry but thats the way I see it, I pay my TV license that pays for the BBC, and seriously don't know why people listen in the first place when blatently, as has been shown even in this thread, they can't get it right in the 1st place. Not retracting this one, tired or not. Do none of the 20,000 emails a week not give you and your producers a f***ing idea of how to run the show you have been doing since when? 1996 or something? Plus the stuff before that?! Emails or no emails use some common sense Jules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrant Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Sir Judge Mental, you are being judgemental! I'm not sure you can slate Jules when he has his hands tied by what is quite simply a very poor time slot and producers who feel the need to pack the show with features. I agree with KML that it's not worth staying up that late to catch the tunes now. I think it's excellent Jules is asking us on here, where his true fans (former and present) reside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Mental Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 LOL I really need to stop posting at silly o'clock after a hard shift at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Mental Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Saying that, even though its only the afternoon If his hands are that tied, what difference will asking make? If you relate that back to my 1st point then its a pretty fair comment, just could have been worded a lot better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Maybe it's just a case of the "Judge won't budge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Jules Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Thanks for the very useful feedback. The show's format changes from this Friday night (which I'm recording 2m, Thursday.) There will be a 25 minute mix at the end of the show, focusing only on more banging stuff (45 mins is too long in my humble.) A couple of the guest interviews will be shortened dramatically. However a few bootlegs will be there... I hope you like them. This isn't a total overhaul, but at the same time is very much driven by your comments. Please keep em coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennox2s2s Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) Fair play to Jules responding yet again in person, I await these changes to the structure of the Friday night show.... Then again, it is us who are tunning in week in and week out to listen....... Edited February 27, 2008 by lennox2s2s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Haze Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Well this fridays show will definately be worth a listen as i reckon the new layout will works well. Fair play to you Jules for taking the feedback from us guys and taking it on board I really liked you co - hosting the show with PVD the other week, i found Paul quite a humorous guy Did i hear right your hoping Marco V will be joining you this month and will this be a feature your likely to continue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted February 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberduck Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Like a highway man riding under the light of the moon he passes through the sleepy town leaving a message as he goes. Well, thats my description of Jules' much welcomed posts on here anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stringer Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 wow, Judge Jules posting on a forum message board. I knew people say this board was better than the official one, now I see why! Big up Jules :winkthumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberduck Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 wow, Judge Jules posting on a forum message board. I knew people say this board was better than the official one, now I see why!Big up Jules :winkthumbsup: He's done it a few times since this board was started. All have been much valued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrant Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I'm really pleased we have a solid 25 min mix now. I will be tuning in! Nice one Jules sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissie Brown Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Well done Jules. :thumbsup: Jules didn't mention the "Recovery Track" so it will be interesting to see if it will be featured on his show this week. As he is doing a 25 min at the end of the show we could still have the last 5 mins dedicated to the Recovery Track. l hope l'm wrong as IMO it spoils the end of the show as it always leaves me feeling flat. I think it would be much better to have a T&T tune before the final mix and drop the "Recovery Track" altogether so that the show finishes on a high. I'm on holiday in Chiswick atm so haven't been on here much this week. Edited February 28, 2008 by Chrissie Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 l hope l'm wrong as IMO it spoils the end of the show as it always leaves me feeling flat. Oh well, at least it creates a 'Julesism' opportunity! "The recovery record - making people feel more deflated than a Police stinger device". But yeah, looking forward to the new changes. The 25 minute mix should create some more energy during the show so thats great news. Hopefully the Tried & Tested returns too As for the bootlegs - I don't mind them if they're good quality bootlegs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Good stuff Jules, glad to see you've taken all the comments on board and made changes, not many people who would do that! Will defo be listening to the show friday, not sure about live tho as i think the missus would get a little annoyed at that time..... :winkthumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsteve Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 As he is doing a 25 min at the end of the show we could still have the last 5 mins dedicated to the Recovery Track. It just means the show ends at 2.55 Yep, I'll catch this new format on Listen Again. Looking forward to it :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Well done Jules, thanks for taking people's comments on board. Its nice to know that what we think counts and that you are not like other Dj's who would think bugger it, i know best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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