kml Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Noticed some posts online about the cost to the tax payer etc... Interested to hear members views Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Kane Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 It is inevitable so I am not getting too worked up about it. I get a day off from work for it & I am attending my friend's wedding in Chester on the same day. WIN! I am getting mighty sick of hearing about it though - 'royal commentators' as they term themselves need to f*** off. I couldn't care less what she wears, who designed it, what car she travels in and which ponces attend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Me either! Couldn't give a flying f***!! All I know is I'll have to work as normal and as it's classed as a bank holiday I'll get double pay!! no doubt the telly at work will be on and actually I quite like William as Royals go ... So good luck to them both I don't wish them any harm, but at the same time I don't really give a shit!! Remember William being born as it goes, remember his parents wedding in fact. That dragged on. Thank god they'll be married in April otherwise we'd have all the hype til bloody July!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Couldn't give a toss really. I'm not very royalty minded. They should pay for their own wedding though. They've got millions - so let them spend some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 The extra day off is all that's interesting me to be honest - I'll be heading to Liverpool for the Premier League Darts the night before (Thurs 28th April) so it means I could sink a few pints & not worry about work the next morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremor Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Just another day at the office for me. I dont get to take bank holidays on the actual dates. However I have gained a day's holiday this year instead to take when I want so fair enough I guess. Will do my utmost to avoid seeing any of it tho... I really aint interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonard1one Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Elephants Bollocks to the wedding. People will be oohing and aahing at william and what's her name getting married, and talking about what designer made her wedding dress. But on their wedding night they'll be shagging all night - not that they haven't done that already - just like 'ordinary' people. I' ve nothing personal against the royal family, they've never done me any harm. But I'd like to see a public holiday declared when the queen - who is the richest woman in the World - gives half of her wealth to to charities which aid the Third World. Which would probably still leave her the richest woman in the World. I can't understand people who thing that the royal family are in any way special, or that us having a royal family makes our country in any way special. Bollocks! Where's their head at! It's time for change. I call upon all members of the JJA board to prepare for revolution. It will be a bloodless revolution, through the power of Dance music. Cheese for our new Queen, Queen Cheese the 1st has a nice ring to it. Quadrant will be the protector of the Queens person - though he said in on of his posts God Save the Queen, so he'll probably be angry with me. The new National Anthem will be Rise - Gabrielle - mash up matt darey remix. We'll work the rest out later. They're coming to put on my special white jacket. Hard to type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12831433 :confused: Like everyone else here I do not care about this weeding, I cared more about my close friends wedding last year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Ah now... weeding yes I care about the weeding, especially at this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Kane Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 The Royal Family make Britain a lot of money and almost single-handedly stimulate a huge level of interest from tourism. I have no problem with the 'core' royals living well (Queen, Princes, etc) but when the 356th in line to the thrown abuses tax payer money I do get a bit pissed off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Have to say I'm totally with Tom on that. Just couldn't be arsed to say owt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 The Royal Family make Britain a lot of money and almost single-handedly stimulate a huge level of interest from tourism. It would be interesting to see the statistics for how much they bring in vs how much it costs to fund them and police it all (not just directly, such as the visible Police outside Buckingham Palace, but the indirect policing costs that we don't really see). There's no doubt that a lot of Tourists go to see Buckingham Palace - but I bet the percentage that come over JUST to see the Palace and any other royalty-related things isn't as high as we all think. I would imagine a lot of the tourists that see the Palace are over in the UK anyway studying at Uni, staying in the UK for a holiday, or calling into London for a few days while they're travelling around, etc. Obviously, they do generate a lot of money for the country - but I bet the figures aren't as high as it may seem taking other factors into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 24, 2011 Report Share Posted March 24, 2011 Oh I think they are. There's alot of History in this country and tourists love all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonard1one Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Briggsy. Had a look at this threadage earlier, and couldn't be arsed to post. But your post is very much along the lines of what I was thinking. I don't see hundreds of people standing gawking at Buckingham Palace. But then again I have never spent any time gawking at Buckingham Palace. The royal family have a very effective publicity machine constantly working to promote the royal family. How many tourists come to Britain, and are really that interested in the royal family. Britain has many many other things to offer as a tourist destination. A Country in Europe has a royal family. Does anybody know which Country that is - without googling. Does anybody know the names of the royal personages. Is anybody interested in them. Would anybody go to that country just because they have royalty. I don't think so. Are people around the World thrilled by the prospect of coming to Britain because they might see a queen - who is in reality just an elderly woman with a hell of a lot of money, and who sometimes dresses up a bit and wears a crown. If they are then I can only feel sad for them that they can't think of something better to do on their holidays. Can anybody find any evidence that the royal family generate any real income for this Country relative to what they cost this Country? Would be very interested to see it. Tom. You said that you didn't mind the 'core' royal family living well. But you didn't like the 356 th - or whatever - in line to the throne getting their snouts in the trough - not an exact quote - but that's the deal Man. The royal family don't give a f*** if you like it or not. You don't get to choose. You like having a royal family? Then you have to take all the shit that comes with it. The royal commentators, the ponces, the parasites. You don't get to choose what is ok and what is not. They don't even know that you exist, and they don't give a f***. I noticed on another topic that a fair few members were complaining about the Government. That's fair enough. I fully understand that, and agree with some posts. But, whether you agree with what the Government are doing or not - and they're mostly a bunch of shisters - we need to have a Government. This Country is up shit creek without a paddle, and the royal family is not going to do anything about it. They're doing nicely, thank you. Seems a bit crazy to me being annoyed that you don't have enough money to live a reasonable life - which is totally understandable - but then accept the royalty of this Country having immense amounts of money, when they've never done a real days work in their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Kane Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Personally I have never taken issue with the Royal Family in the same way I don't take issue with having to take time from my day to go to the toilet. It's an inevitability and one which neither you or I can do sweet f*** all about so I don't let it bother me. They do generate massive revenues, not only from people going to see the palace but through the associative history, tradition and alike. Ask any American what they think of when thinking of Great Britain and they will almost always say the Queen. There are a lot of royal families across Europe too, not as prominent as ours but plenty all the same, off the top of my head I can name The King of Spain, The Prince of Monaco & the Queen of Holland (Queen's day in Holland is a huge celebration) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonard1one Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Hi Tom Am always up for a friendly informed debate. Thought it was interesting that you referred to the royal family and having to have a crap in the same paragraph. Though I know that what you said was not intended to be perceived in a manner which contradicts your stated opinion. The existance of the royal family is not in my opinion an inevitability. But it is a fact. If you look at this Country's history it is a fact that for many hundreds of years it has had sovereign's. Until relatively recently they ruled supreme, by the right of God. Henry V111 springs to mind. He had a few heads chopped of. Because he wanted to, and did pretty well much as he pleased. People - the commoners - could do f*** all about it. But - without recounting our nations history - a time came when some did not accept that they could do f*** all about it. They did something about it, and so the seeds of democracy were sown. Things stay the way they are - right or wrong - if people accept the way things are. Many have laid down their lives to bring about change in this Country. So to throughout the World. If they had not could this Country exist under the rule of dictatorship? No? We British are different or better than those who live under a Dictatorship? But I agree with you that the existance of the royal family is the way things are, at least for our lifetimes, or longer. I am a Socialist. Don't equate with communist. I'm a moderate Socialist. I believe that Socialism, if implemented properly could work, and enable true equality of opportunity, and a fairer distribution of wealth. But I don't think this Country will ever accept Socialism, certainly not within my lifetime. Because many people are motivated by greed and the desire to possess, and capitolism serves this well. If ever this Country becomes Socialist the royal family will be put out to pasture. As they deserve to be. In reality they serve to underpin the class system in this Country. I will bow to no one, or accept that they are better than me by virtue of their birth. If I had billions, or millions, firstly I would give most of it away, because I don't need that much money, and it is obscene to have that much money when 24,000 children die Every Day. But if I had that much money I would find it abhorent to have servants waiting upon me hand and foot. They generate massive revenue? Because of the associative history and traditions of our Country. The history of our country and traditions are interesting, and are certainly a source of interest for people in Country's throughout the World. But what relevance do the royal family really have to that. Our history, and heritage, and traditions don't depend upon an elderly man and woman, and their sons and daughters, and their fifth cousin removed. Ask an American what you think of when you think of Britain? Most Americans don't think f*** all about Britain. They're as interested in Britain as? Think of some obscure Country of your choice. I am interested in Greece. Which once ruled most of the known World, and it has been said of was the birthplace of democracy. The history of Greece is facinating. I wouldn't mind visiting it, though the history of Greece is more interesting than is present day Greece I think. It has no royal family. Just to reiterate. Most Americans, when asked about Britain are f*** all interested, and those who have any interest refer to all the inhabitants of Britain - or more correctly the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as English. Certainly they've heard of the queen. So what. They're more interested in osama ben laden. If someone asks me about Australia I think first of surfing. On a completely different note. I defended Charlie Sheen because I though it was a bit severe to refer to him as a degenerate. I was not aware that he had made anti semetic comments. I abhor racism. I do not believe that Charlie Sheen is in fact racist. But that in no way excuses racist comments. As to him doing 8 gram lines of coke. I would not think of him as a degenerate for doing that. Rather, I would think that he has become psychologically dependant on coke, and has developed tolerance to it, which is an unfortunate state. In the World he lives in I'm sure that lines of coke are being snorted by many, and they are getting high. I like to get high. Dance music gets me high. But if I were living in Charlie Sheens World and coke was always around I can't say that I wouldn't do a few lines. In fact, despite the fact that I know the first line of coke you ever do can kill you stone dead - heart failure - I would almost certainly do a few lines. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! It's just got a hold on Charlie Sheen. He's on a crazy roller coaster ride, and I don't think he knows how to get of it. I have some compassion for the guy. Regarding his shagging porn stars. I once saw a documentry about a porn actress from Britain who went over to America to further her career. I don't personally understand how women can become part of that World. But she was a really lovely girl - personality I mean. She was beautiful to. But the American producer, who was also participating in the film was going for it very hard with the oral. She was very distressed and had to go of to a room. The documentry makers were very concerned about her, and talked to her, and asked her if she wanted to leave. She's a human being. Just a young woman. I can not look down upon her. As to him not shouldering the responsibilities that he has. How many men do not do that? He's of his head with doing to much coke. Who can say for sure that they'll never fall by the wayside. We all of us could fall. No one ever expects it to happen to them, or sees it coming. Thank God that it's not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrant Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I really hate the way people water down everything in this country: it's cool to be anti-royalist, anti-public school, in fact anti-anybody-who-has-more-money-than-us. Why do they have to be mocked because they are "not one of us"? Why are some people afraid to admit that they like tradition, or they like the royal family, or they like museums, for example? Is it jealousy, ignorance, or something else? (I never had any of these privileges but I aspire my children to be better off, more educated, more rounded, and aspire to higher things and better jobs than I did. Why not?) Saying "at least we get a day off" - goodness me sirs that is true but have some respect for your country, even if you don't agree with its history, don't like its history, or, (more likely) don't know about its history; be proud of the values and the identity it lends us. It's a lack of respect. They are our Royal family, not anyone else's. Be happy for them and enjoy the day peacefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Kane Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Leonard I appreciate your comments but we fundamentally disagree - which is fine. Charlie Sheen is a degenerate - I abhor his behavioir, his racism, his obtuseness, his general lack of attention to his family (which you failed to mention). I am without sin (in terms of drug taking) so I will cast the first stone - it has messed with his mind and has left him in a mentally unstable state. He has lost his (extremely well paying) job, has become the butt of jokes and an item of ridicule. I have covered everything I want to say about the Royal Family - I am no royalist, I am a realist. I hardly think that you can, in any way, align our 'plight' in having to foot the bill for a Royal Wedding to dictatorship! We are a democracy, we vote our leaders into power. The Royal family exists and personally I hope it continues to exist, if for nothing more than the reasons Quadrant made reference to. Tradtion cannot be brought. Capitalism, socialism or any other social outlook will not be able to instill the centuries of tradition within our contry (this is another debate which I will not get into here). I would also hasten to add that America cares plenty about England (in the grand scheme of things). Rednecks may not give a toss (do they care about anything?) but America has such great connection with our country on a historical note that we will always be relevent to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 I am with Tom on this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuro Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 These kind of events don't come round very often so it's interesting for me. It won't change my life (I'll actually be in Spain when it's on) but I am definitely looking forward to the wedding and hope to catch a bit of it on TV... I am pleased for them and I hope it goes without mishap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 I don't want the royal wedding - simply because Prince Phillip will probably come out with a speech - and then Jules will sample it and loop it over his sets. Prince Phillip - Drunken Speech (J&T Project mash-up) [Royal Flush Recordings] Not available from all good download stores near you soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 True dat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Kane Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 I think even Jules has the capacity to differentiate between a truly historic moment in time, encapsulated by a speech (Obama) and the ramblings of an old bigot (Phillip). I could easily be proved wrong however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 I think even Jules has the capacity to differentiate between a truly historic moment in time, encapsulated by a speech (Obama) and the ramblings of an old bigot (Phillip). I could easily be proved wrong however If he's prepared to play "Somebody Scream" samples at a club like Godskitchen, then I wouldn't rule anything out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 It's a definite possibilty to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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