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Radio 1 have too many talking DJ's that like the sound of their own voice - Moyles, Westwood, Whiley, etc - I think they should take on Tiesto instead. After all, he's not a talking DJ :mrgreen: We'd actually get to listen to some music then :oddcake:

Sir. You actually make a serious point there. Part of my love for Jules's radio shows has been down to three simple things:

1) A radio show where the music is perhaps interspersed from time-to-time with DJ chit-chat - not vice versa (i.e. not loads of talking, like most radio DJs)

2) A non-commercial, mix-inspired showcase of the tunes currently doing it, with no interference from official radio playlists, charts, or outside parties.

3) Live broadcasts, which capture the true club atmosphere and already encapsulate points 1 & 2 (above).

Dance music is so genre-ally fragmented now that you will never get those three back all at the same time; but we all know they were the key reasons why we listened & followed religiously each radio broadcast. Am I right or am I right?

I'll pipe down now.

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Sir. You actually make a serious point there. Part of my love for Jules's radio shows has been down to three simple things:

1) A radio show where the music is perhaps interspersed from time-to-time with DJ chit-chat - not vice versa (i.e. not loads of talking, like most radio DJs)

2) A non-commercial, mix-inspired showcase of the tunes currently doing it, with no interference from official radio playlists, charts, or outside parties.

3) Live broadcasts, which capture the true club atmosphere and already encapsulate points 1 & 2 (above).

Dance music is so genre-ally fragmented now that you will never get those three back all at the same time; but we all know they were the key reasons why we listened & followed religiously each radio broadcast. Am I right or am I right?

I'll pipe down now.

Ii think I'm with Quadders!!! But I do like listening to a good talking DJ too. I hate radio one though. I only ever listen now if I have to, either someone I'm with has is it on, or I'm in the car with the broken CD player, I'm amused by certain things I hear, I used to have the radio on all day at work, most recently radio 2 mind you, but now I just hear music at work and I like that, the radio and radio one though is company, and the compant it wants to keep isn't people like us. If Radio one are dropping dance now after they took it up late, because KISS was steaing it's isteners and radio one didn't play anything that had no lyrics, then so be it, but we need a replacement, most ex rad 1 listeners can move on to rad 2, which is ok at times, but what about us dance music fans!! I am not listening to fu*king Dave Pearce on 6, I want an all day station with good DJ's and laughter but good dance tunes and dance related tunes like classic reggae, DnB, jungle, Disco, NOT girls aloud or Britney, I want basement jaxx hits, old forgotten remixes, that kind of thing. To go about my daily business along to. If you dont want talk, get an ipod, and or dock it.

How is KISS these days? What happened to BAM BAM?

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Kiss plays too much urban tripe in the day, but i do still prefer R1 in the day. Gambaccini is THE talking DJ though. He's super good. But now, for specialist programming, Kiss has got it spot on. Tonight, you get Armin, and John Digweed! from 0000hrs. Then tomorrow at 0100hrs you get X-Press2 (which is a must listen, seriously).

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Sir. You actually make a serious point there. Part of my love for Jules's radio shows has been down to three simple things:

1) A radio show where the music is perhaps interspersed from time-to-time with DJ chit-chat - not vice versa (i.e. not loads of talking, like most radio DJs)

2) A non-commercial, mix-inspired showcase of the tunes currently doing it, with no interference from official radio playlists, charts, or outside parties.

3) Live broadcasts, which capture the true club atmosphere and already encapsulate points 1 & 2 (above).

Dance music is so genre-ally fragmented now that you will never get those three back all at the same time; but we all know they were the key reasons why we listened & followed religiously each radio broadcast. Am I right or am I right?

I'll pipe down now.

In my so humble opinion, you are very right Sir!

That is also indeed some of the heavy reasons why I started listening to Jules in the first place.

On topic... I don't understand the disliking of what Annie Mac plays. Fair enough, people have their own tastes, but it seems to me quite a few of you lads'n ladies hold a grudge against her or the music she plays anyway.

I personally think it's rather nice that her playlist is "mashed up" with drum'n bass, electro, & loads of other styles, plus the damn nice mini/guest-mixes (again... in my opinion ;)).

A little fun fact from the other day (friday the 14th):

Cruising the highway outside of Edinburgh, me and my mate listened to Annies show and out of the blue my mate turns to me and said; "very nice that they play such mixed tunes on this show..."... and I have to agree. Maybe we're just too used to danish radio where the daily playlist consist of 20 tracks on rotation all day long... + the odd classics thrown in..... boooooring.

So out of curiousity and not to stir up any flaming, hating or other negative vibes(;)), what is it that sets you off with Annies show?

The whole thing about switching Pete & Annie kinda does make sense to me. As kml said, Pete --> Jules is a more smooth transition between shows, than Annie --> Jules...

and I guess R1 doesn't really seem to be bothered by the fact that they destroy Essential Selection's slogan of being The Officially Start To The Weekend.

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On topic... I don't understand the disliking of what Annie Mac plays. Fair enough, people have their own tastes, but it seems to me quite a few of you lads'n ladies hold a grudge against her or the music she plays anyway.

I don't have anything against her as such - I just don't think her show is very 'peak-time' orientated. Its very random and would be suited to a later time when, with no disrespect to her, people are coming back from the clubs after a heavy night out and don't really care what they're listening to. I would imagine people would struggle to get into her show at 6pm when they're getting ready to go out. People want something fairly easy-listening and slow which sets them in the mood - whilst also getting some valuable inside info about tracks.

Pete Tong's show suits that perfectly - which is why I would imagine his listening figures have been so high for so long. Regardless of whether people like House, Trance or Breaks, they seem to appreciate Tong's show. Tong is also very knowledgable, very informative and has a good radio voice.

Annie Mac doesn't have the best radio voice, isn't the greatest DJ, and lacks the knowledge and charisma that Pete Tong has.

She'd be more suited to a 1am til 3am role in my opinion - with Tong remaining where he is.

The really sad thing is though, there are no British DJ's that are natural replacements for Tong and Jules when they eventually retire or get shown the door. Tall Paul is probably one of the only remaining British DJ's that plays across the board like Jules does - but he's been around a while now and his career peaked a long time ago. Eddie had a fall out with the BBC, Barry Connell passed away - and the remaining high-profile British DJ's are 100% Trance or 100% House, etc. This is the problem with the modern dance scene - there are no personality DJs now or DJ's that have got where they are though DJ'ing talent - the majority now are getting to where they are rapidly simply because they've had a few productions out. There will never be another Judge Jules or Pete Tong again in the future :(

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They are obviously being very cold with regard to Tong's show, Annie Mac must be getting good listener figures for them to change the things around mind. Tong's show has been excellent lately & I think over the years it's his personality & presence that has undoubtedly made the show what it is. Club wise he doesn't play out that much & seems to get most of his bigger gigs off of Radio 1 weekends & such but the guy just presents an awesome show. The way in which you get the commercial stuff to begin with & maybe even the odd hip-hop track thrown in made the transition (which R1 deem to valuable) so very smooth.

The live broadcasts were such an enjoayble part of the older schedule, they used to have so many as well, Homelands, Creamfields, Ibiza, Gatecrasher SSS & the odd bonus ones like the Jules uni tours. It was magnificent!

What kinda grates me even more so now is the way that Vernon Kay is infiltrating the dance shows, the guy is a decent presenter but seriously he has no business being live from Ibiza or covering for Tongey, get someone else in who can do a proper job!

They have severely culled the roster anyway, remember the days when Yousef & Lottie were kept on board simple as 'residents' to cover shows & do the odd essential mix? None of that now really besides the INDJWT which pretty much play the same kind of stuff that you can hear elsewhere on the station, they had O'Bir & Halliwell as well as Fancuilli & Dave Spoon & sought to usurp them with garbage like KissySellOut (most annoying man ever) & Heidi (who's only been playing for a year or something obscene & has accomplished very little in relation to the others).

Personally now I just check out the online shows such as GDJB (which blows everything else away) & occasionally ASOT or TATW, purely music based with a little bit of interraction & chat.

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for me, the best replacement for Tong, would have been someone like James Zabiela, though i dont think he has much radio experience. Obviously Eddie would have replaced Jules had he not had the falling out. Annie Mac is just too random. Tong and Jules try to simulate a club experience by building things up, but Annie Mac doesnt. Did Annie Mac play out in clubs before she joined Radio 1? I bet she didnt, and it shows.

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Did Annie Mac play out in clubs before she joined Radio 1?

I think she did as she used to play The Custard Factory regularly in Birmingham. I think her club sets are more breakbeat orientated judging by some of the line-ups i've seen her on. I don't think she played 2 gigs a night, three nights a week like most DJs do though.

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Yep live on the essential mix from ibiza and yep numerous times sat in for tong, shes worked in promotional capacities for clubs and such and what not in the pastm what I cant get over is she does that switch show on a sunday surely that infers heras a jack of all trades really

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Only time I ever listened to Radio 1 was in my old work, and I'd take Annie Mac over Jules any day.

I love Annie Mac, to be honest I can take her show more seriously than Jules' these days, and the best thing about it is its not meant to be serious, it does what it says on the tin, gets you ready for a night out.

Some of the old minimixes were amazing, do they still get done?

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the problem with radio 1 is they have some head of programming running it who thinks what they want is best, but they never seem to ask the listeners what they want.

then they change it to some crap format, give it a run for 6 months an change it again. and the shows become inconsistent.

having done a slight bit of radio work i kinda know how it works.

I kinda feel that radio 1 is wanting to move away from dance scene, and i dont think it will be every be as dance orientated as it was. some people say the dance scene is dying off, maybe this could be the reason why they are wanting more urban. like for example westwood has a 3 hour show on saturday.....this could be because urban is a bit more popular "down with the kids" or to compete with galaxy/emaps steve sutherland on same night, which attracts alot of listeners.

also another reason why there chopping and changing with the times is the djs contracts have just been up for renewal, so then they can change the time when they resign.

Unless radio1 sorts this dance issue and gets some real propper talent alongside jules & tong and gets the dance shows on at a sensible peaktime hour there going to loose alot of listeners and this will become apparent in the quarterly rajar listening figures. Most people arnt going to stay in and listen to shows between 9-1 am fri night, there going to be out and wanna get ready to the shows, not p*** about listening to them on iplayer.

I remember sat nights having jules on before going out, got me in the mood, and the show was at its prime then.

Another thing that makes me think that radio1 is trying to steer away from dance is that there aint really much of a live broadcast from ibiza anymore, years ago it was a full 3 day live broadcast from ibiza, starting with tong, now your lucky if you get 2 live shows and a whole load of pre-records not even the full live nights essential mixes, there all pre-records now.

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what really gets my goat with Radio 1 is, they seem more devoted to "urban" now than ever. Yet 1Xtra caters strictly for urban music. So, now Radio 1 will be pushing, it renders 1Xtra completely none void. If radio 1 is to switch to urban, then make 1 xtra dance specialist? surely?

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