Spin Doctor Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 ...four hours left to vote. Whatever propaganda your friends or work colleagues may have been saying EU elections ARE important, AS ARE local elections if you have them where you are. Don't be a fool, if you don't vote you have no right to complain. If you think all of them are as bad as one another, still go and vote, but deface the ballot. Free and fair elections are one of the things that makes living in the west a privilege. Don't squander that privilege. Took my grandad down to the polls this lunchtime to cast our votes. Nothing beats exercising your democratic rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 A good post and very true. I often used to overlook this but until you see/hear of the many people back in the day who strived for the right to vote, we should certainly consider ourselves priveleged. I voted by post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Yes especially women. ALL women should vote, if only to show gratitude to those who fought for them to be able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I've voted. I had a change of heart and voted for someone completely different to what i'd intended when I got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 It is also a democratic right not to vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonross46 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I voted, didn't want to but when I did I feel I had contributed and I'm pleased that I did in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aza Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Ditto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Democracy is a bit of a joke. More people don't vote than do and a government is formed by party who usually only achieves one vote for every five possible available votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Yes! But we can fight for stan's right to have babies, even if he can't have them, because he hasn't got a womb!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Doctor Posted June 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 It is also a democratic right not to vote True, it is a democratic right not to vote, but you're a bit of an idiot if you don't. Also, I really do think that not voting removes ay moral claim you have to make complaints. If you don't like what's on offer you can still spoil the ballot. As for your second post, there is a confusion between a method of governance and with that methods outcome. Under democracy, everyone could vote for the winning party, just because more people vote for other parties or don't bother doesn't invalidate the method. Even if it is a joke, I still think it's our best bet to ensure effective governance and place some checks and balances on the executive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrant Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 I agree with Mr Spin Doctor, sir! In other countries you get fined for not voting - I think Australia does this, and quite right too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number2Fan Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) Not really, as some people who don't vote, are just thick bastards who reallty shouldn't have any say. Edited June 6, 2009 by Number 2 fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emy Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 This is news to me..when and where can I vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 It is a democratic right not to vote and it is a much a valid right as is the right to vote. Compulsory voting makes a mockery out of the whole idea of democracy! When people are made to vote they either vote for the first party on the list or spoil the ballot paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emy Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 I did vote last year so that makes up for it David Cameron-I want him for PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kml Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 True, it is a democratic right not to vote, but you're a bit of an idiot if you don't. Also, I really do think that not voting removes ay moral claim you have to make complaints. If you don't like what's on offer you can still spoil the ballot.As for your second post, there is a confusion between a method of governance and with that methods outcome. Under democracy, everyone could vote for the winning party, just because more people vote for other parties or don't bother doesn't invalidate the method. Even if it is a joke, I still think it's our best bet to ensure effective governance and place some checks and balances on the executive. Surely Proportional Representation offers a better or at least fairer system "... to ensure effective governance and place some checks and balances on the executive" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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